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<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="inuse" style="background-color: #CCFFCC; border: 1px solid #009900; margin: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><center><big>'''This page is for discussion of the Main Page only.'''</big><br />Please use this page to discuss changes to the Main Page and not about any other aspect of CPDL. If you wish to ask a general question, the answer to which is not in the [[Help:Contents|help pages]], please do so at the wiki based [[ChoralWiki:CPDL support, help, and feedback|Bulletin Board]].<br />Please click on the tab marked "+" above to begin a new discussion and [[ChoralWiki:Signatures|sign your posts]] by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end.</center></div>
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<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="inuse" style="background-color: #CCFFCC; border: 1px solid #009900; margin: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><center><big>'''This page is for discussion of the Main Page only.'''</big><br />Please use this page to discuss changes to the Main Page and not about any other aspect of CPDL. If you wish to ask a general question, the answer to which is not in the [[Help:Contents|help pages]], please do so at [{{SERVER}}/phpBB3 the forums].<br />Please click on the tab marked "+" above to begin a new discussion and [[ChoralWiki:Signatures|sign your posts]] by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end.<hr>
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== Score submission guide ==
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== Login required? ==
  
I've just added links to the score submission guide and translations on the right hand column at the suggestion of Joachim on the forums. If anyone has any strong views for/against, let's discuss it here becuase I'm not entirely convinced that the links do belong there... though it is useful for users who can't read any English. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 22:45, 14 December 2007 (PST)
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I just tried to view the RSS feed of recent changes, but it came back with an error -- so I typed in cpdl.org in the address bar ... and was redirected to the Login screen. That screen had a note that said logging in was required to access '''any''' page on CPDL. What's up with that? (Or is my browser just being retarded?) [[User:Kkroon|Kkroon]] 07:28, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  
: Probably some change is in order, because I first thought the links must be to Italian and Dutch versions of the Main Page.  Possibly new translations of pages could be simply posted as [[Template:LatestNews|CPDL news]] articles for the time being - and/or - (in lieu of a "languages" box at the far left, a section <nowiki>Template:Languages</nowiki> added (above or below CPDL news) with various language links.  Since the Score submission guide already has links to the Dutch and Italian versions on the page, I don't think it's necessary to include them in the Main Page where they are now, at least if there is a section on the Main Page about pages/resources in other languages. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:26, 14 December 2007 (PST)
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Never mind -- it looks like "user account creation spam" [[User:Kkroon|Kkroon]] 07:31, 26 November 2009 (UTC)  
  
: The [[ChoralWiki:Add Music|Add scores to CPDL]] link in the navigation box on the left, the [[Help:How can I post my own scores?|Add scores]] and [[Help:Score submission guide|score submission guide]] links in the Contribute to CPDL box all point to different pages. It would be better if the pages were merged in to one page (I'm favoring the Score submission guide), with the linked page in the navigation being replaced by a redirect, and the Add scores link in the Contribute to CPDL removed. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:26, 14 December 2007 (PST)
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:Hi Kurtis, fortunately this huge string of new users is not the work of spammers! It's real people trying to access CPDL after access to it was restricted by Max as an emergency measure, because of severe server bottlenecks. Better solutions are already being discussed at the forums. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
  
: Final thought (for now):  Maybe these discussions should be moved to the [[ChoralWiki:Village pump|Village pump]] (with a link here to those discussions)? -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:26, 14 December 2007 (PST)
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== Most recent scores? ==
  
OK. FIRST to inform myself before writing my opinion, I clicked on the Italian flag, and was taken to the page for the image. Since my experience is that it is a common convention to use the flag as a link to a translated page, I think link needs to be reworked. Second, if we're to go multi-national, I would suggest that the same link method be used for all versions, and the way I would prefer to see this implemented is to have the section of the main page under the heading "Contribute..." be all links, so that the English language version is moved to a new page, too.
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I've been assuming I'm keeping track of all new additions from the main page "Most recent scores" but notice [[Iste est qui ante Deum (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina)]] seems to be missing, and the list [[:Category:Posted on day 8]] doesn't match up very well. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 02:33, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 
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:I guess it's because two bottom lines were missing, particularly the "Category:Sheet music" one. New editions' list shows only title of work pages, not new user pages, text pages, etc. BTW, this thread could have been instantiated on the work page discussion tab. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 06:27, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
And I concur that these discussions should take place on the village pump. [[User:mjolnir|Noel Stoutenburg]] 1710 GMT 15 December, 2007.
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::...if I had realized the issue ;-) but thanks! Category Posted on Day 8 made me think there was something else going on, before I noticed that the rest of [[:Category:Posted on day 8]] was from September. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 20:44, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 
 
Bobnotts added the link to the Dutch version at my request.  I don't really have any opinion on what the main page should look like - the main reason for my request is this: if you add translations to accomodate people who do not speak English, then it is rather counterproductive to require them to click trough a bunch of English in order to reach the file in their language.
 
If you really want CPDL to become accessible to people from all sorts of backgrounds (which I gather is the idea, judging by the translation request), then that accessibility should transpire right from the main page.  If you turn it around, I wonder how long it would take native English speakers to find the correct information if the site were published in, say, Dutch.  Not to mention how eager those few persistent characters would be to subsequentely take on the process of actually publishing a score.
 
In summary: multi-language access means multi-language main page. [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]]
 
 
 
MY COMMENTS above are about the details of the way the link is constructed, not about whether or not there should be pages in different translations. This site is adopting the model of Wikipedia, and it seems reasonable to hope that eventually there will be a full complement of pages--main, templates, categories, text & translations, &c. for a number of different languages, and I approve of the addition of the current translations to Dutch and Italian. [[User:Mjolnir|Noel Stoutenburg]] 0923 GMT 15 December, 2007
 
 
 
I would suggest to replace the text "Questa pagina è disponibile anche in italiano" with the text "La guida all'invio di spartiti è disponibile anche in italiano", which means "The score submission guide is also available in Italian". --[[User:Choralia|Choralia]] 03:40, 17 December 2007 (PST)
 
 
 
== Other languages section ==
 
 
 
I've just reformatted the Main Page to include a section on [[Template:Other languages|Other languages]], currently placed right below the Browse CPDL section and before the CPDL News section.  As other translations of pages become available, they can be added to [[Template:Other languages]] and will appear on the Main Page.  For the time being, I've included the actual translated page names (as secondary bulleted items).  However, when and if the list of these individual translated pages becomes too long the secondary items can be removed, for the primary bulleted items point to translated pages categories for each language (see, for example [[:Category:Italian pages]] or [[:Category:Dutch pages]]), where all the translated pages may be found. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 02:08, 18 December 2007 (PST)
 
 
 
I think the new structure is an improvement, though, as you mention, transparency might get lost as the list of available languages / pages expands.  One small thing, though: I think the links to the translated pages should be in the target language. The Dutch for score submission guide is <i>Handleiding bij het publiceren van partituren</i>. -- [[User:Jkelecom|Joachim]] [[User:Jkelecom|Jkelecom]] 18:07, 18 December 2007 (PST)
 
 
 
: Thank you Joachim.  I just added the Dutch wording to the link to the Score submission guide on [[Template:Dutch pages]].  I'll add it to the Main page as well. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 23:51, 18 December 2007 (PST)
 
 
 
:: I agree with Joachim. The equivalent in Italian is: ''Guida alla pubblicazione degli spartiti''. The word ''Help'' may be translated as ''Aiuto'', but the English term is also used in Italian so it may be left as it is now. --[[User:Choralia|Choralia]] 23:55, 18 December 2007 (PST)
 
 
 
::: Thanks Max.  I just changed the Italian wording, following your suggestion. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 00:19, 19 December 2007 (PST)
 
 
 
That looks great Chuck, well done. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 05:33, 19 December 2007 (PST)
 
 
 
== Bigger notice about forums being down ==
 
 
 
I've just added this because I don't think the news item is getting the message across well enough. My reasoning for this is quite simple - I've just replied to [{{MediaWiki:Discussions-url}}/viewtopic.php?t=3859 an old forum post] today. It was posted on 14th March(!!) and I've only just noticed it through a glitch in the system (it wasn't highlighted like new messages normally are). If someone would like to amend the wording of the notice, please do so or leave messages here. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 21:12, 26 March 2008 (PDT)
 

Latest revision as of 20:44, 9 October 2017

Login required?

I just tried to view the RSS feed of recent changes, but it came back with an error -- so I typed in cpdl.org in the address bar ... and was redirected to the Login screen. That screen had a note that said logging in was required to access any page on CPDL. What's up with that? (Or is my browser just being retarded?) Kkroon 07:28, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Never mind -- it looks like "user account creation spam" Kkroon 07:31, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Kurtis, fortunately this huge string of new users is not the work of spammers! It's real people trying to access CPDL after access to it was restricted by Max as an emergency measure, because of severe server bottlenecks. Better solutions are already being discussed at the forums. Regards, —Carlos Email.gif 19:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Most recent scores?

I've been assuming I'm keeping track of all new additions from the main page "Most recent scores" but notice Iste est qui ante Deum (Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina) seems to be missing, and the list Category:Posted on day 8 doesn't match up very well. Richard Mix (talk) 02:33, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I guess it's because two bottom lines were missing, particularly the "Category:Sheet music" one. New editions' list shows only title of work pages, not new user pages, text pages, etc. BTW, this thread could have been instantiated on the work page discussion tab. Claude (talk) 06:27, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
...if I had realized the issue ;-) but thanks! Category Posted on Day 8 made me think there was something else going on, before I noticed that the rest of Category:Posted on day 8 was from September. Richard Mix (talk) 20:44, 9 October 2017 (UTC)