Talk:Psalm 1

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Recent reformatting of Texts and translations section

Recently an editor has reformatted the Texts and translations section, "Reformatting page to distinguish texts from translations, and to rank texts evidencing CPDL workpages above those with no extant settings". He has created three new sections: "Set texts", "Set metrical paraphrases", and "Unset texts and translations". I have several comments about these changes.

  1. This proposal is a big change from the display of texts on text pages and work pages that I have seen (and I have seen most of them, I think). Common practice so far has been to display texts in a section called "Texts and translations", showing the oldest (or original) text first.
  2. This proposal would require more manual maintenance. Each of the thousands of text pages that have multiple texts would have to be reformatted, then regularly visited (after every new setting?) to ensure they conform to the new structure. This is way beyond anyone's capabilities at present, I think.
  3. As far as I can see, this proposal would be difficult to automate.

There have been some suggestions that the Setting by composers section should be automated, if we can figure out to do it retaining the useful comments regarding language, voicing, and text source, that are manually entered at present. The editor's previous "attempt to standardize sources of text" will be very helpful in this process. — Barry Johnston (talk) 19:25, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Probably my subsections are not best titled, they were intended as a straw man. Set texts is self-explanatory. For historical reasons metrical paraphrases, especially in the anglophone world, deserve separate categorisation. Divorcing unset texts/translations is an attempt to prune the Babel that has accreted on some Psalm pages. I will put forward more detailed proposals in a couple of days, when I have done a little more research. Cjshawcj (talk) 01:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

How to deal with Right-to-left texts?

E. g., Hebrew, Arabic. Does anybody know how to do this? I have read documents about RTL in Wikipedia, Wikimedia, and HTML. So far, every time I try to put RTL text within a template (such as {{Text}}), I get failure. I will edit this page to show my sloppy workaround. Is there some other way? — Barry Johnston (talk) 19:25, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Barry. Some Hebrew texts like Al Naharot Bavel (Salamone Rossi) seem to use RTL successfully. Friendly, Claude. Claude T (talk) 20:52, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi Claude. Thanks for the hint! In the case you cited (Al Naharot Bavel (Salamone Rossi)), the text is not in the {{Text}} template. I figured out a way to put the text in the template, though the flag is still left-justified. What do you think? Thanks! — Barry Johnston (talk) 22:22, 8 June 2023 (UTC)