Talk:Requiem in D minor, Op. 48 (Gabriel Fauré): Difference between revisions
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''1. Introït et Kyrie'' | ''1. Introït et Kyrie'' | ||
All parts (SATB), measure 6, beat 1: the 3/4 note should last for the entire measure (i.e. 4/4) [SCH only] [in BÄR the duration is 3/4, with the exception of the B where it is 4/4 – this looks quite strange, so it’s probably an error in BÄR] | All parts (SATB), measure 6, beat 1: the 3/4 note should last for the entire measure (i.e. 4/4) [SCH only] [in BÄR the duration is 3/4, with the exception of the B where it is 4/4 – this looks quite strange, so it’s probably an error in BÄR] | ||
:This one is debatable - arguably the cut off could come at the 4th beat of bar 6 in order to clear the air for the strings/organ's note. It's a 3/4 note in the Hamelle FS and VS (1900). PML | |||
All parts (SATB), measure 9-10, beat 4-1: the final note of the measure should last only 1/4 (not 1/4 + 1/8 - it should stop at the end of the measure). The 1/8 note tied over in measure 10 should be removed [SCH, BÄR] | All parts (SATB), measure 9-10, beat 4-1: the final note of the measure should last only 1/4 (not 1/4 + 1/8 - it should stop at the end of the measure). The 1/8 note tied over in measure 10 should be removed [SCH, BÄR] | ||
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Tenor, measure 25, beat 1-3: the three notes C (3/8 + 1/8 + 1/4) should be replaced by a single 3/4 note, with syllable “pe” on C and syllable “tu” on B(b) at beat 4 [SCH only] | Tenor, measure 25, beat 1-3: the three notes C (3/8 + 1/8 + 1/4) should be replaced by a single 3/4 note, with syllable “pe” on C and syllable “tu” on B(b) at beat 4 [SCH only] | ||
:No - PML | |||
Tenor, measure 26, beat 2-3: the note A (1/2) should be replaced by two 1/4 notes, with syllable “a” on A at beat 1, syllable “lu” on A at beat 2, syllable “ce” on A at beat 3, and syllable “at” on D at beat 4. Text is “et lux per-“ on measure 24, “-pe- tu-“ on measure 25, “-a lu- ce- at” on measure 26, “e- is” on measure 27 [SCH only] | Tenor, measure 26, beat 2-3: the note A (1/2) should be replaced by two 1/4 notes, with syllable “a” on A at beat 1, syllable “lu” on A at beat 2, syllable “ce” on A at beat 3, and syllable “at” on D at beat 4. Text is “et lux per-“ on measure 24, “-pe- tu-“ on measure 25, “-a lu- ce- at” on measure 26, “e- is” on measure 27 [SCH only] | ||
:Again, no - evidently Fauré's word accents in bars 25-26 weren't to the liking of some later editor, and many editions (Schirmer included evidently) repeat this error. The correct underlay is bar 25: "-pe-tu-a lu-" 1·/4 1/8 1/4 1/4, bar 26: "ce-at___" 1/4 1/2 1/4 - PML | |||
Tenor, measure 38, beat 1: the note A should last 1/2 and not 1/4 [SCH, BÄR] | Tenor, measure 38, beat 1: the note A should last 1/2 and not 1/4 [SCH, BÄR] | ||
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Tenor, measure 53, beat 1-4: T.I should sing F (not unison C# with T.II), while C# is correct for T.II [SCH, BÄR] | Tenor, measure 53, beat 1-4: T.I should sing F (not unison C# with T.II), while C# is correct for T.II [SCH, BÄR] | ||
Tenor, measure 54, beat 2-4: T.I should sing F# for 1/2, then go to C# ( | Tenor, measure 54, beat 2-4: T.I should sing F# for 1/2, then go to C# (unison with T.II) for 1/4, rather than singing F# for 3/4, i.e., until the end of the measure [SCH, BÄR] | ||
Tenor, measure 68, beat 1-2: the notes F and C should have the same duration, 1/4 each, rather than 3/8 (F) and 1/8 (C) [SCH, BÄR] | Tenor, measure 68, beat 1-2: the notes F and C should have the same duration, 1/4 each, rather than 3/8 (F) and 1/8 (C) [SCH, BÄR] | ||
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Soprano, measure 30, beat 1-3: the note B(b) should last 1/2 (followed by a 1/4 rest) rather than 3/4 [SCH only] | Soprano, measure 30, beat 1-3: the note B(b) should last 1/2 (followed by a 1/4 rest) rather than 3/4 [SCH only] | ||
:I will investigate this one, but I'd stick with 1·/2 (dotted minim) rather than minim and rest - PML | |||
''5. Agnus Dei'' | ''5. Agnus Dei'' | ||
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Alto, measure 59, beat 1-2: the note Eb should be E (it changes to Eb at beat 3) [SCH, BÄR] | Alto, measure 59, beat 1-2: the note Eb should be E (it changes to Eb at beat 3) [SCH, BÄR] | ||
Tenor, measure 59, beat 1-2: | Tenor, measure 59, beat 1-2: error in [BÄR], the duration of note Ab of T.II is shown as 1/4 while it is probably 1/2 as for T.I (otherwise, to fill the measure, a 1/4 rest is missing at beat 2) | ||
Tenor, measure 68, beat 1-3: the duration of note F should be 1/2 and then change to D at beat 3, rather than remaining F throughout the measure [SCH, BÄR] | Tenor, measure 68, beat 1-3: the duration of note F should be 1/2 and then change to D at beat 3, rather than remaining F throughout the measure [SCH, BÄR] | ||
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Alto, measure 56, beat 6: the note G should be F [SCH only – see above] | Alto, measure 56, beat 6: the note G should be F [SCH only – see above] | ||
:I think you mean it should be A - PML | |||
Tenor, measure 84-85: the duration of note E should be 3/2 (i.e., the whole measure 84 and the first half of measure 85), not 2/2 [SCH, BÄR] | Tenor, measure 84-85: the duration of note E should be 3/2 (i.e., the whole measure 84 and the first half of measure 85), not 2/2 [SCH, BÄR] | ||
:Again I will check this, but from memory only the soprano persists into bar 85, and a semi-breve is correct for the tenor. In practice this note is shortened so that the tenors cut off at the same time as the altos and basses. - PML | |||
Bass, measure 131, beat 2-4: only the note D should be present (both for B.I and B.II), not the note F (for B.II) [SCH, BÄR] | Bass, measure 131, beat 2-4: only the note D should be present (both for B.I and B.II), not the note F (for B.II) [SCH, BÄR] | ||
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Tenor, measure 54, beat 3: the last note in the measure (1/8) should be A for T.I and F(#) for T.II, not F(#) for both [SCH, BÄR] | Tenor, measure 54, beat 3: the last note in the measure (1/8) should be A for T.I and F(#) for T.II, not F(#) for both [SCH, BÄR] | ||
:Not sure about this one, will check. My score has unison F# so I'm tempted to think I'm right. - PML | |||
Bass, measure 28: the duration of note A should be 3/4 (a dot has been omitted) [SCH, BÄR] | Bass, measure 28: the duration of note A should be 3/4 (a dot has been omitted) [SCH, BÄR] | ||
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Error listing by --[[User:Massimo Capozza|Massimo Capozza]], a.k.a. --[[User:Choralia|Choralia]] 14:08, 23 December 2006 (PST) | Error listing by --[[User:Massimo Capozza|Massimo Capozza]], a.k.a. --[[User:Choralia|Choralia]] 14:08, 23 December 2006 (PST) | ||
Revisions by PML -- <span style="color: #00cc00">Philip Legge</span> <sub>[[User:Philip_Legge|♇]] [[ChoralWiki:Philip_Legge%27s_Music_Page|℗]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pml|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Pml|©]] [[User_talk:Pml|Φ]]</sub> 19:28, 19 February 2007 (PST) | |||
Further revised by --[[User:Massimo Capozza|Massimo Capozza]], a.k.a. --[[User:Choralia|Choralia]] 06:09, 13 September 2007 (PDT) | Further revised by --[[User:Massimo Capozza|Massimo Capozza]], a.k.a. --[[User:Choralia|Choralia]] 06:09, 13 September 2007 (PDT) |
Revision as of 16:53, 13 September 2007
Error list
Please note: some (or most?) errors may not be actual mistakes, but just differences between different editions. The reference editions used for comparison are Schirmer, HL 50324670 [SCH] and Bärenreiter, BA 7513 [BÄR]. The choir training/rehearsal aids available on the Choralia web site have been corrected in compliance with this error list.
1. Introït et Kyrie
All parts (SATB), measure 6, beat 1: the 3/4 note should last for the entire measure (i.e. 4/4) [SCH only] [in BÄR the duration is 3/4, with the exception of the B where it is 4/4 – this looks quite strange, so it’s probably an error in BÄR]
- This one is debatable - arguably the cut off could come at the 4th beat of bar 6 in order to clear the air for the strings/organ's note. It's a 3/4 note in the Hamelle FS and VS (1900). PML
All parts (SATB), measure 9-10, beat 4-1: the final note of the measure should last only 1/4 (not 1/4 + 1/8 - it should stop at the end of the measure). The 1/8 note tied over in measure 10 should be removed [SCH, BÄR]
All parts (SATB), measure 11, beat 2: the second note of the measure should last 1/4 and not 3/8 (1/4 dotted) [SCH, BÄR]
All parts (SATB), measure 61, beat 1: the note should last 1/2, not 1/4 [SCH, BÄR]
All parts (SATB), measure 81-82: lyrics should be “Ky – ri- e” (the “Ky” lasts two quarters) rather than “e- le- i- son” [SCH, BÄR]
All parts (SATB), measure 86-87: the note D should last 8/4 (two full measures) and not 7/4 [SCH, BÄR]
Soprano, measure 49, beat 1: the note D should last 3/4 and not 1/2 [BÄR only]
Alto, measure 51, beat 1-3: the two F notes (1/4 + 1/2) should be A (same duration) [SCH only]
Alto, measure 53, beat 1-4: the two F notes (1/2 + 1/2) should be A (same duration) [SCH, BÄR]
Alto, measure 69, beat 4: the note F should be D [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 22, beat 3-4: the two A notes should be 3/8 (1/4 dotted) + 1/8, and not 1/4 + 1/4 [SCH only]
Tenor, measure 24, beat 1: the note F (low) should be a 1/4 rest [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 25, beat 1-3: the three notes C (3/8 + 1/8 + 1/4) should be replaced by a single 3/4 note, with syllable “pe” on C and syllable “tu” on B(b) at beat 4 [SCH only]
- No - PML
Tenor, measure 26, beat 2-3: the note A (1/2) should be replaced by two 1/4 notes, with syllable “a” on A at beat 1, syllable “lu” on A at beat 2, syllable “ce” on A at beat 3, and syllable “at” on D at beat 4. Text is “et lux per-“ on measure 24, “-pe- tu-“ on measure 25, “-a lu- ce- at” on measure 26, “e- is” on measure 27 [SCH only]
- Again, no - evidently Fauré's word accents in bars 25-26 weren't to the liking of some later editor, and many editions (Schirmer included evidently) repeat this error. The correct underlay is bar 25: "-pe-tu-a lu-" 1·/4 1/8 1/4 1/4, bar 26: "ce-at___" 1/4 1/2 1/4 - PML
Tenor, measure 38, beat 1: the note A should last 1/2 and not 1/4 [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 51, beat 1-3: T.I should sing F (not unison D with T.II), while D is correct for T.II [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 53, beat 1-4: T.I should sing F (not unison C# with T.II), while C# is correct for T.II [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 54, beat 2-4: T.I should sing F# for 1/2, then go to C# (unison with T.II) for 1/4, rather than singing F# for 3/4, i.e., until the end of the measure [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 68, beat 1-2: the notes F and C should have the same duration, 1/4 each, rather than 3/8 (F) and 1/8 (C) [SCH, BÄR]
2. Offertoire
Soprano, measure 80, beat 2: the note G# should be G [SCH, BÄR]
Alto, measure 18, beat 2-4: the duration of note C should be 1/4 rather than 3/8 (1/4 + 1/8), while the last note E in the measure should be 1/4 rather than 1/8. [SCH, BÄR]
Alto, measure 81, beat 4: the last two notes in the measure (A and G#) should have 3/16 and 1/16 duration, respectively, rather than 1/8 each [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 26, beat 2-4: the syllable “su” should be postponed by 1/8 (on C# rather than on D), the syllable “Chris” should be postponed by 2/8 (on B rather than on C#) [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 81, beat 2: the note A# should be A [SCH, BÄR]
Bass, measure 91-92, beat 3-1: note E at the end of measure 91 should be tied with the first note of measure 92 [SCH, BÄR]
3. Sanctus
Soprano, measure 30, beat 1-3: the note B(b) should last 1/2 (followed by a 1/4 rest) rather than 3/4 [SCH only]
- I will investigate this one, but I'd stick with 1·/2 (dotted minim) rather than minim and rest - PML
5. Agnus Dei
All parts (SATB), measure 84, beat 1-3: the duration of the first note in the measure should be 1/4 followed by 1/2 rest, rather than 3/8 followed by 3/8 rest [BÄR only]
Alto, measure 28, beat 2: the note G should be E [SCH, BÄR]
Alto, measure 59, beat 1-2: the note Eb should be E (it changes to Eb at beat 3) [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 59, beat 1-2: error in [BÄR], the duration of note Ab of T.II is shown as 1/4 while it is probably 1/2 as for T.I (otherwise, to fill the measure, a 1/4 rest is missing at beat 2)
Tenor, measure 68, beat 1-3: the duration of note F should be 1/2 and then change to D at beat 3, rather than remaining F throughout the measure [SCH, BÄR]
6. Libera me
Soprano, measure 55, beat 4-6: the duration of the second note A in this measure should be 3/4 (a dot has been omitted) [SCH, BÄR]
Alto, measures 54 to 56: all the notes G should be A [BÄR only – this difference is limited to one note only in SCH, see next]
Alto, measure 56, beat 6: the note G should be F [SCH only – see above]
- I think you mean it should be A - PML
Tenor, measure 84-85: the duration of note E should be 3/2 (i.e., the whole measure 84 and the first half of measure 85), not 2/2 [SCH, BÄR]
- Again I will check this, but from memory only the soprano persists into bar 85, and a semi-breve is correct for the tenor. In practice this note is shortened so that the tenors cut off at the same time as the altos and basses. - PML
Bass, measure 131, beat 2-4: only the note D should be present (both for B.I and B.II), not the note F (for B.II) [SCH, BÄR]
7. In Paradisum
Soprano, measure 22, beat 3: the last D note in the measure (1/8) should be B [SCH, BÄR]
Soprano, measure 40, beat 3: the duration of note F(#) should be 3/4 (i.e., the whole measure) and not 1/2 (a dot has been omitted) [SCH, BÄR]
Tenor, measure 54, beat 3: the last note in the measure (1/8) should be A for T.I and F(#) for T.II, not F(#) for both [SCH, BÄR]
- Not sure about this one, will check. My score has unison F# so I'm tempted to think I'm right. - PML
Bass, measure 28: the duration of note A should be 3/4 (a dot has been omitted) [SCH, BÄR]
Bass, measure 54, beat 3: the last note in the measure (1/8) should be A for B.II, not B [SCH only]
Error listing by --Massimo Capozza, a.k.a. --Choralia 14:08, 23 December 2006 (PST)
Revisions by PML -- Philip Legge ♇ ℗ @ © Φ 19:28, 19 February 2007 (PST)
Further revised by --Massimo Capozza, a.k.a. --Choralia 06:09, 13 September 2007 (PDT)