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Would it be possible to use the sort key in this template with {{CiteCat|Evening Canticles}} and {{CiteCat|Morning Canticles}} as well as {{CiteCat|Masses}}? [[Second Service (Thomas Tomkins)|This page]] is currently incorrectly sorted in the category, for example. Also, would it be possible to not drop the final "s" on "Canticles" since in most cases, there are two canticles paired - Magnificat with Nunc dimittis and Te deum with Jubilate, for example. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 13:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC) | Would it be possible to use the sort key in this template with {{CiteCat|Evening Canticles}} and {{CiteCat|Morning Canticles}} as well as {{CiteCat|Masses}}? [[Second Service (Thomas Tomkins)|This page]] is currently incorrectly sorted in the category, for example. Also, would it be possible to not drop the final "s" on "Canticles" since in most cases, there are two canticles paired - Magnificat with Nunc dimittis and Te deum with Jubilate, for example. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 13:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Ok, sort key added to the Canticles, and final 's' maintained. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 13:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Okay, I'm rather confused about what is and is not a musical genre. I grant that things like Anthems, Cantatas, Motets, Hymns, Masses, etc. (under {{CiteCat|Sacred music}}) or Chansons, Folksongs, Madrigals, Operas, etc. (under {{CiteCat|Secular music}}) are musical genres. But I do not understand that Christmas music (and probably secular Christmas music) are musical genres - these are '''seasons''', not genres. If Christmas is to be a genre, then aren't also, Advent, Ephiphany, Lent, Easter, Yom Kippur, Passover also to be considered as such? Please enlighten me. | Okay, I'm rather confused about what is and is not a musical genre. I grant that things like Anthems, Cantatas, Motets, Hymns, Masses, etc. (under {{CiteCat|Sacred music}}) or Chansons, Folksongs, Madrigals, Operas, etc. (under {{CiteCat|Secular music}}) are musical genres. But I do not understand that Christmas music (and probably secular Christmas music) are musical genres - these are '''seasons''', not genres. If Christmas is to be a genre, then aren't also, Advent, Ephiphany, Lent, Easter, Yom Kippur, Passover also to be considered as such? Please enlighten me. | ||
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:Ok, Christmas removed. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 13:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Sort keys
I like this template, but unfortunately, it does not categorize Masses properly, since when a work is categorized as a Mass, it requires a special sort key of the form "ComposerSurname, ComposerFirstname(s)". Probably the template needs some tweaking for this special case (an extra sortkey parameter for the Masses case, and also a different sortkey for other cases, such as then "The Haven" is to be sorted under "Haven, The). -- Chucktalk Giffen♫ 21:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, I had forgotten this special case. A sort key was added, one just needs to add 9=surname, name to the template. Fortunately, the other sortkey for alternative page titles is no longer necessary, DEFAULTSORT will suffice in those cases. —Carlos
05:37, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- This doesn't seem to be working... see Missa Beati Conradi (Peter Griesbacher) and Messe de Minuit pour Noël (Marc-Antoine Charpentier) for examples. --Bobnotts talk 18:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for noticing that, Rob. I just reverted a Text Replace that shouldn't have been applied to this template. Carlos 22:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- This doesn't seem to be working... see Missa Beati Conradi (Peter Griesbacher) and Messe de Minuit pour Noël (Marc-Antoine Charpentier) for examples. --Bobnotts talk 18:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Would it be possible to use the sort key in this template with Evening Canticles and Morning Canticles as well as Masses? This page is currently incorrectly sorted in the category, for example. Also, would it be possible to not drop the final "s" on "Canticles" since in most cases, there are two canticles paired - Magnificat with Nunc dimittis and Te deum with Jubilate, for example. --Bobnotts talk 13:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, sort key added to the Canticles, and final 's' maintained. —Carlos [[[:Template:Carlos]] ] 13:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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Okay, I'm rather confused about what is and is not a musical genre. I grant that things like Anthems, Cantatas, Motets, Hymns, Masses, etc. (under Sacred music) or Chansons, Folksongs, Madrigals, Operas, etc. (under Secular music) are musical genres. But I do not understand that Christmas music (and probably secular Christmas music) are musical genres - these are seasons, not genres. If Christmas is to be a genre, then aren't also, Advent, Ephiphany, Lent, Easter, Yom Kippur, Passover also to be considered as such? Please enlighten me. | |
- Ok, Christmas removed. —Carlos [[[:Template:Carlos]] ] 13:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)