Talk:George Frideric Handel

Correct title format for Handels works?

Having done all this work on the Brahms page, I think Handel could use a 'facelift' as well.
For the work entry's I assume this would look like Title, HWV#. This seems fair enough.
But, there are a number of compositions which are thematically related like the Chandos Anthems and the Coronation Anthems.As for now the Chandos Anthems stand out very clear, the Coronation Anthems are pretty well hidden.
I suggest that we stay in all circumstances we stick to the following principle: Title, Op. #, Catalogue # (Op. # and Catalogue # if applicable) eg. My heart is inditing, HWV 261, Coronation Anthem No. 4 or My heart is inditing, Coronation Anthem No. 4, HWV 261. (I would prefer the first choice.) Also make a separate 'overview' page Coronation Anthems were all 4 Coronation Anthems are listed. On the "works page" under the Title: might be an extra line with something like Part of : with a link back to this 'overview' page
The same goes of course for all thematically or Opus related works.

It has become a bit of a long story. --Arie 04:49, 24 September 2007 (PDT)

Arie: yes, great idea, please do continue with all this "facelifting"! I'm of the opinion that wiki page titles should be as short as possible. By adding info on the page itself to do with opus (or other catalogue) numbers, and larger works, it should be very easy to make this information clear under the "General Information" title. So, I would favour My heart is inditing, HWV 261, without the larger work mentioned in the wiki title but with a note below under "description" saying "Coronation Anthem No. 4" with a link to the page "Coronation Anthems (George Frideric Handel)". It might be worth waiting for other people's comments before going ahead, though, as those are just my opinions. Best, --Bobnotts talk 09:40, 2 October 2007 (PDT)

Robert, Thanks for the input. I hope someone else does join this discussion, since it is vital to all CPDL entry's (at least I think so). --Arie 03:14, 4 October 2007 (PDT)

Yes to the overview page, the separate Opus list, and cat # inclusion

I agree with the overview page. I put Parry's "Songs of Farewell" in an overview page pointing to each of the separate songs, and on each "works" page I mentioned that it was number x of the 6 "Songs of Farewell". This page would also allow me to put some works-specific info down that would otherwise have to be duplicated in each of the 6 songs.

I also think the catalog number should be included when useful in the Works title, such as was done with Brahams. In the case of Brahms I'd make an overview pages pointing to each of "works" in the Liebeslieder and Neue Liebeslieder waltz collections, but the Opus organization where they are individually called out can stand as well.

Hope this helps with Handel reorganization. Johnhenryfowler